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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters

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they exist among us and sometimes they

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win

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of cryptids in the

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join us as we venture beyond the moon

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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fans of monsters radio where we explore

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and discuss the unknown and the

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unexplained i'm your host lon stricker

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so tonight uh we present another round

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table discussion the subject

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is alien encounters

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joining us are albertus rosales lynn

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wallington and thomas m ferrario

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albert esperzales was born in cuba where

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he experienced several strange events

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some ufo related he migrated to spain in

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1966 and lived there for a year and he

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then migrated to the united states

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soon after albert joined the u.s navy in

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after traveling to europe there he began

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collecting reports of ufos and et cetera

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in 1980 he went to work for his father

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until he became ill and passed away and

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albert joined the miami dade police

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department as a 9-1-1 dispatcher in 1984

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and worked there for 35 years

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while there he heard it all including

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ufo and humanoid reports

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in early 1990s he began to concentrate

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in summarizing only humanoid entity

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encounters of all kinds

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to date he has summarized and collected

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over 24 000 reports and the database is

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updated and corrected daily albert has

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written 16 books and chronicles of the

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of entity and humanoid encounters

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including a book by ufos and humanoids

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over florida and these books can be

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obtained on amazon

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now as a witch with ancestral ties to

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sale in massachusetts

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lynn wallington lives life amidst the

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strange and unusual

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her first paranormal experiences

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happened at a young age where she saw

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her great grandmother sitting at the

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edge of her bed one night wanted to find

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out the next morning that she had passed

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lynn has always lived with one foot in

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this world and won the spirit world

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and since that defining moment she has

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had a fascination with all things

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and how it affects people led her to get

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a degree in psychology from the

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university of massachusetts after lynn

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graduated she worked for harvard medical

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school during research and working with

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clients with schizophrenia and other

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forms of psychosis

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in her 30s lynn had her first experience

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with the ufo and shortly after had an

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experience with a mantas being

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her interest in the field of ufology was

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using her own experiences in her

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background psychology lynn worked for

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at the dr edgar mitchell foundation for

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research and extraterrestrial encounters

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where she helped to develop and run the

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sport program for experiencers

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in doing so lynn has had the privilege

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of talking with hundreds of experiencers

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where she helped them come to terms with

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regression therapist and has worked with

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experiences to help recover memories and

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that these experiences have played in

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their life

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lynn also co-hosts rebellious ufology on

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thomas m ferrario has worked as a dive

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master machinist electrical engineer on

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projects in the united states red china

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he has been an independent ufo

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researcher since 1969 to 1998 at which

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point what walt anders founder of mufon

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asked him to become a section director

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later he would go on to be an assistant

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assistant in 2006 and later became part

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of ted's siu team

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he assisted ted phillips on his marley

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folks uh thanks for coming on tonight

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glad to be here

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well i'm going to start this out i guess

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with the obvious question but about huma

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and i'll start with uh i'm gonna start

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with lynn because of her background what

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are alien

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extras even ebes

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uh what's your definition these entities

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well that's a big question um

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it can encompass a lot of different

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things right i think we use the the term

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alien kind of as a or extraterrestrial

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i mean we have all kinds of words for it

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now but extraterrestrial ultratrust real

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inter-dimensional intra-dimensional

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you name it so i think alien kind of

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encompasses all of those things

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what do people see they i mean the

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variety that they see is as much as the

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variety of the words that we have for it

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so you'll see anything from

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uh you know interdimensional light

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beings to physical beings in front of

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potentially beings that are

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part biological part machine as some

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people believe some of the small grays

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are more like androids

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so it really runs the gamut of what they

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see all shapes and sizes

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the grays i would say is probably one of

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the most common ones that we hear about

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um reptilians also but you know we get a

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a lot of different ones so they see a

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lot of different things which is what

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makes it really fun and exciting

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so what do you say to that uh question

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i you know i absolutely over the years

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and working with ted phillips and marley

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we were so fortunate as i could tell you

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that we and i know you know we had a

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gentleman out there

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uh one of the the greatest in the field

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us because he was good friends with ted

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ted phillips started out as dr alan

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heineck's protege back in the days with

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blue book and you had jacques villa

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working on the right of dr heineck and

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ted out doing the physical trace

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research

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and uh and that's where ted wanted to be

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so long was doing the he was comfortable

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doing the nuts and bolts work

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and i will tell you as myself included

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he had a big problem in the beginning

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dealing with the aspect of this being

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the the dimensional aspect of this

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um but as he said he come to through our

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work out there in marley woods his

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premier project that he spent virtually

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the rest of his life at

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that he got to feel that this was

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heineken and

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valet were so ahead of their times as he

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said that it was just too

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so much more complex than

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little green guys from alpha centauri

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coming here that

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interject what one of my mentors jacques

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back of our mind and i would just

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of ufology and

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in the spiritual realm just

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always uh his words were that we have

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evidence that the phenomena has the

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ability

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to create a distortion of the sense of

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reality or to substitute artificial

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sensations for the real ones now now

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what that means in a nutshell is

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you have to always question what you're

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seeing or experiencing yourself

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and believe me at marley woods ted's

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living laboratory

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we all come to believe that this is all

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more on the the dimensional aspect

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than the interplanetary uh

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so that's quite a statement i will tell

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you i didn't like to deal with that when

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well i i tell you i have to i have to

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lean that direction be honest with you

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uh you know i've been doing this a long

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was the little green men at first coming

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in spacecraft and and i i my thoughts on

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that have entirely changed i think it's

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dimensional travel possibly and

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by other means as opposed to craft

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landing and depositing there are alien

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beings onto the planet

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entities and beans is

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entities and humanoids were like

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they came later for some reason at the

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the early humanoid catalog like passport

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resembling a gray and there were

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what happened uh there was a

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after going hypnotic regression

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years later

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so

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um

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i don't know and as far as uh i i agree

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with with tom and lon i

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i think there's a

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interdimensional aspect here

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i think there might be many dimensional

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dimensions or

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other worlds

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parallel

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who knows but i think that's a more

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practical uh

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answer uh i'm not saying they're not

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they're not might be some from outer

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space too and they might use

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other dimensions to travel here uh

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wormholes

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i don't know maybe there's there are

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two

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let me maybe ask this and now

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for the most part most of these alien

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beings that people see or encounter

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are of the humanoid variety

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and uh what are your thoughts on why

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that is why do they have arms and legs

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and heads just like we do

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for the most part

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i'm gonna start off with a little bit

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hmm

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um i don't know that's a good question i

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um

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i'm trying to remember where i heard it

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uh but a few years back there was

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a scientist who was talking about that

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that might be the most

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uh

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conducive to our

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universal kind of existence is that's

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that form

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um but yeah i'm not really sure either

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that or perhaps they're projecting that

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image to us because it's less um outside

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of our realm of understanding it's it's

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somewhat kind of we can kind of identify

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with that even if they are maybe

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insectoid or reptilian it's still the

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same you know similar kind of body type

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and so there's some frame of reference

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that we can identify with but

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i'm not quite sure it's a good question

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what do you think tom

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i i think just the practicality of it

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all the the form you know like she just

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mentioned

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uh it's just more practical in in in

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this dimension to be able to accomplish

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tasks the dexterity and you know the one

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thing that i'll go back to what what ted

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had just kind of nailed down

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not we had sightings of structured craft

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in marley we had cryptid

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we had the unseen force and then the

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biggest thing we dealt with were the

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light balls and

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the colors denoted you know their

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activity usually the red ones were the

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bad guys but

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ted always felt that one aspect of it

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was that as our technology increased

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uh they lowered their risk factor and

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went away from the structured craft and

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started using the light bulbs and that

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type of

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you might say it was their form of rov

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and um but we did monitor things at

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marley where they were

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we felt they were a form of rov

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and then we've had sightings actually

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these things

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of entities coming through the light

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bulbs so they were actually like a

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vehicle in itself so

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it's just in the dimensional realm

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you're dealing with such a wide

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range of you know

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possibilities that you just have to have

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your mind open to it all the time

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so albert you're the humanoid chronicler

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so

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what do you think

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you know what uh

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if if we are

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uh

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seeded from other planets like a lot of

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researchers say maybe

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that's why we have this humanoid form

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and the uniform the humanoid form is

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prevalent throughout the universe

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in my catalog i do have

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a few cases in which

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entities

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do not possess a humanoid form

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jelly or amoeba type creatures

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some creatures their symbol octopi

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but most most of the i say 90 percent of

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humanoid are more than 90 percent

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talking about the light bulbs and this

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the tom mentioned

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there's there's even cases in which

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i call bedroom visitation when

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you're lying in bed and you wake up

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there's an entity or a being there

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there's been a lot of

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cases in which the entity itself

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transforms into a light bulb

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a sphere and it flies out of the the

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room or out the window or through or

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through the wall

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they don't need to open the window to

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come in they could go through walls

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there's hundreds of documented

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cases right

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well

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my thought on this is and it's close to

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what albert's stating i think

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the human species is a universal species

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and why i say that as i think that the

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the entities that we see that we

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identify as aliens expressive

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may actually be evolved humans

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that are have the ability to come back

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through time

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and

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come here for whatever reason whatever

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agenda they're looking at maybe they're

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here coming back to change some things

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or such

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but

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you know over the years and that i've

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talked to a lot of experiences that

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seems to me to me be the reason why i

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had no evidence of that you know it's

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all anecdotal but um

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you know that's my thoughts at this

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point

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and uh you know you also brought up

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these these orbs you know and this is

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gonna be my next question

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you know the the alien abduction

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scenario has evolved over time in a way

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you know you talk about the 60s and

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betty and barney hill they were

439
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brought up into a craft and they had one

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species of being there showing them this

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and this doing experimentations then any

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kind of evolved into a more um

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sexual nature

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hybridization

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other things going on you had maybe one

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or two types of beings

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nowadays

448
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there's there seem to be different

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factions involved with multiple type of

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the very few abductions are done through

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craft a lot of it is done through a

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bedroom

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uh you know experiencers start seeing

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blue lights or start seeing ball i mean

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orbs and stuff and all of a sudden these

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things show up

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then they're either transformed

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physically or ethereally through

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you know to another location

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um

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lynn what do you think that is why do

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you think that

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this whole experience

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that people have with abductions has

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seemed to change

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i think that's twofold i think that

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people are one becoming more comfortable

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talking about it you know back in the

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50s and 60s it just wasn't really

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something that was acceptable it was

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something that you know was

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would have been a difficult thing to

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talk about

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um i mean even into you know the the 70s

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look at travis walton you mean

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you know that it was just a tough time

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to talk about those things

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um and so i think that one people are

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talking about it more but i think also

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we're having a better understanding of

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what constitutes contact so i think you

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know initially yes people reported

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physical

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interactions as contact um but now we

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can recognize that consciousness plays a

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big role in it as well and so that's why

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we're seeing some more of these

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uh

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you know astral or spiritual type

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contacts whether it's uh remote viewing

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or

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um people's astral bodies are actually

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going and going up onto these craft or

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wherever it is they're going there's so

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many different scenarios so i think that

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our understanding of the phenomena

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though obviously we don't completely

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understand it

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anywhere even close to it um we're

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getting a better understanding of what

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constitutes contact and i think that's

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why we're seeing more of these reports

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of that nature

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uh

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you know it's really we experience like

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again i i fall back on my personal

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experiences and uh which was with ted

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phillips and marley woods and

509
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you know

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so much of what we dealt with out there

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the the cryptid activity they come

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through and everything

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we just found it just to be of the

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dimensional nature and um it was

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frequency driven and and just quite

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frankly what that means and there again

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you get into the ability to come into

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someone's bedroom and duck somebody

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um it's

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as

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again my one of my mentors jack valet

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and others had said ray stanford another

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gentleman

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um

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dimensionally when you match uh the

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frequency modulation

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that that is the tool that's used to

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actually go through

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so often reported walls

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come in through the ceiling

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when you match the frequency

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with an object a structural object or

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00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:14,000
yourself

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that gives you the ability to pass not

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only through dimensionally but through

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physical objects

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so when you use that kind of background

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as a tutor to let you know how this is

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done

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that is the tool which is used so often

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we feel

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to actually

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and it's more or less they threw away

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the structured craft and they're into

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more just the

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manipulation of

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frequency

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and

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just in the dimensional aspect of it all

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we just fall back on that so often and

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uh and it just gets into uh

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you know

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00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,039
we at times in marley we were exposed to

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we put a lot of it the the detrimental

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00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,600
things that affected us out there we

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00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,679
hadn't nailed down to we were dealing

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with microwave energy bursts

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and uh and that

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and that we found was used a lot

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in frequency manipulation and

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00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:13,919
had some very bad things done to animals

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out there and uh but

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it just goes on and on you know as when

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we dealt with cryptids out there we knew

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there wasn't a living breeding

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population of things that we dealt with

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00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,880
on a daily basis uh you could have went

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through there with a thousand men

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hand-to-hand never found but when they

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were there they were just physically

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00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,799
real there and laid down physical trace

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00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:38,720
cases that we

573
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,360
we picked up sampled and documented

574
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,159
and had analyzed so when it's on this

575
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:46,480
side it's as real as you and i and then

576
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:49,679
when it's not here it's not here so

577
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,559
uh

578
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,320
yeah you know we find that we find that

579
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,679
encrypted's as well i mean you know

580
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,919
it's interesting and i i believe

581
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,919
personally that and i like to call

582
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,440
multi-terrestrials

583
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:03,440
try to distinguish them from some type

584
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,120
of extraterrestrial sub i mean title but

585
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,840
i i believe that does happen encrypted

586
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,520
as well as

587
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,520
any other type of being that there's a

588
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:15,120
supernatural aspect to it and if you

589
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:16,640
want to say

590
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,360
uh dimensional travels supernatural then

591
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,200
yeah okay either but there's something

592
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:23,520
about it and they do they are here in

593
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,470
yeah i agree with that what do you think

594
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,480
um what do you think albert

595
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,960
well i i i always thought that the uh

596
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:36,320
bigfoot

597
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,720
and cryptic phenomenon is connect it's

598
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:40,960
been connected to ufos

599
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:43,440
it was maybe part of the same phenomenon

600
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:44,480
actually

601
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:45,600
uh

602
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,440
i know of cases

603
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,360
in which uh

604
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:51,919
abductees or people have claimed to have

605
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:54,960
seen uh bigfoot type creatures on board

606
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:57,679
a striker craft now this is they've been

607
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:01,039
abducted i'm talking about 80s early 90s

608
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:04,080
there's one case uh from arizona

609
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:07,280
from tom dungo he's a researcher there

610
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:10,880
in which a hiker near sedona spotted a

611
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:12,559
what appeared to be like a

612
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,919
a hole in in the air like a portal

613
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,159
and out of the portal there was like a

614
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,880
bigfoot type creature was coming out

615
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,640
which reminds me what they saw at

616
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:24,559
skinwalker ranch

617
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,880
but then in in 97 i believe later on

618
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,480
but uh

619
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,799
yeah and what lynn was saying

620
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,840
uh

621
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:34,880
when your

622
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,480
people have been abducted abducted and

623
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:41,039
they go into uh some sort of auto body

624
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,240
experience

625
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,400
and there's they see their bodies laying

626
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:46,240
in the bed or sitting down on the couch

627
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,760
or whatever but they

628
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:49,919
they're uh after ethereal

629
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:53,039
self is transported aboard a craft

630
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:54,640
and they are

631
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,320
they experience a full abduction you

632
00:23:59,870 --> 00:23:58,640
know scenario you know

633
00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,880
physical

634
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,559
experimentation medical whatever but

635
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:04,960
their body remains back at where they

636
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,679
were at home which is

637
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,200
and and talking about going through

638
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,960
walls a lot of these uh

639
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,159
um

640
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:15,120
abductees that

641
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,720
all through will also go through the

642
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,200
walls for some reason they

643
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,600
the human is al also able to go through

644
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:23,279
the wall along with the uh

645
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:29,909
yeah well that that's a question in all

646
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,720
of itself there how it seems beings even

647
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,240
humans at some point when they're being

648
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,840
abducted can

649
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,320
can go through solid matter i mean i've

650
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:40,080
heard a few

651
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:41,919
you know a few uh

652
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,600
explanations that is a type of

653
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:48,159
molecular change or something or

654
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:49,520
vibrational

655
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,159
i i guess that makes sense uh

656
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,039
though that's something above our

657
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,360
or pay grade at this point i don't think

658
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:59,679
you know anybody can really answer that

659
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,840
yeah when when you match the frequency

660
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:03,760
you know solid objects

661
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,880
uh as if in a wall and you can match

662
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,320
that frequency

663
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,000
you know all the atomic structure

664
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,159
vibrates at a certain frequency

665
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,320
and if you can match that with your

666
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,159
physical

667
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,760
body um

668
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,600
you go you go right through it you know

669
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,360
and that's one of the things that we

670
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,880
learned out there that

671
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,799
a lot of this and we had portals out

672
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,279
there and believe me if you like ted

673
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,080
said so often when he started with this

674
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,240
if you would have said frequency or

675
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,760
dimensional

676
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:35,840
uh he said you should have just slapped

677
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,559
me but uh over the years he come to

678
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,799
believe he ted always went where the

679
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,720
science led him and that's

680
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,600
that's what we came away with and uh

681
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,080
it's the reality is what we dealt with

682
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,950
and there were times it had detrimental

683
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,880
we all had physical effects from it at

684
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,120
times and uh

685
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:58,960
you know it just

686
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:01,360
the frequency and microwave and you know

687
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,240
even

688
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:04,080
we experienced you hear people speak

689
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:04,960
about

690
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,640
hearing voices you know and uh

691
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,559
and there's a phenomenon

692
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,720
called the microwave auditory effect

693
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,760
where

694
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,840
i'm you may it's it's becoming more and

695
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,840
more popular now you're hearing about

696
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:19,279
this and uh

697
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,080
where

698
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:22,480
certain microwave frequencies

699
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,520
and actually the ability to form the

700
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,600
sound in the human's

701
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:28,640
head

702
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:31,520
to where that things are transmitted

703
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,799
with microwave energy and actually you

704
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,279
can transmit voices and music

705
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,600
and uh they found this out in world war

706
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,120
ii when people were working with high

707
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:44,080
gain radio uh microwave early radio

708
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:46,960
transmissions uh there were men around

709
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,360
these things that started hearing voices

710
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,880
from miles away

711
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,880
the crew is working on this

712
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:54,559
so

713
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,799
there is that phenom and there again we

714
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,559
we've nailed a lot of this down to the

715
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,799
frequency and microwave range which i

716
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,880
will tell you we we do have a connection

717
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,159
with some of the people yet at

718
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,240
skinwalker and they're coming around

719
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,159
dealing with that right now they're

720
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:10,320
they're dealing in that reality

721
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:11,440
and uh

722
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,080
so and of course we did have a

723
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,880
a short relationship we did with robert

724
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,200
bigelow at marley we worked with his

725
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:21,120
people and come keller was out at our

726
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,080
place

727
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,320
and uh along with douglas trumbull and

728
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:26,080
some others but uh

729
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:26,960
so

730
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:29,600
and as jacques said we had a he felt we

731
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,559
had a

732
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,960
case for higher strangeness in marley

733
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:33,679
than

734
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:37,360
what he had seen at skinwalker and

735
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,039
that's saying quite a bit so

736
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,679
well now i think most of us had some

737
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:46,080
type of encounter at some point

738
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,200
uh

739
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,840
and in lin's bio she mentioned something

740
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,279
about a man of speed and i have

741
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:53,520
investigated madison counters in the

742
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,640
past

743
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:56,559
but i'm interested to find out what you

744
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,039
went through

745
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,880
uh well that is one of the few

746
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:02,640
encounters that i remember the least

747
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,200
about but

748
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,200
but it was the one that started it all

749
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:08,720
off well it was the second one the

750
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:11,600
second one um but all i remember is kind

751
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,559
of like a screenshot in time um i'm

752
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,559
assuming that i was laying on a table of

753
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,240
sort some sort just based on my

754
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,120
perspective of uh what i was looking at

755
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,120
i saw these two like little grays kind

756
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,039
of right in front of me looking at me

757
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:27,679
and then there was a mantis figure um in

758
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:30,480
the back wearing a long kind of burgundy

759
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,360
robe

760
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,520
uh with some gold like stripes on the

761
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,799
neckline

762
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,720
um and that's all i remember really is

763
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,039
just a screenshot from it but i wasn't

764
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,559
afraid i do remember that i wasn't

765
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,880
afraid um

766
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,640
but yeah i wish i had more details for

767
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,960
you well you're a regression therapist

768
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:48,399
have you ever thought about going to

769
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:50,320
under regression for that

770
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,320
i have had three regressions

771
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,799
yes and all of it was something that i

772
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:59,200
never wanted anything to do with and

773
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,039
nothing could do with the manta

774
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,399
so

775
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,360
yes it was all uh like um black ops and

776
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,279
secret space program stuff which i woke

777
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:09,760
up like came out of it like no

778
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,880
come on for real um but i mean not

779
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,480
surprising i grew up in a military

780
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,600
family so

781
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,240
um you know but yeah but yeah didn't get

782
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,600
any info on the mantas being that was

783
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:21,200
the one thing i was looking for

784
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,880
i i don't think i want to go through

785
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,200
regression i'll be honest with you i i

786
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:27,200
have witnessed it

787
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,799
and uh

788
00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:30,159
i

789
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,399
you know because there can be trauma and

790
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,080
there's a certain way you can do it

791
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,840
where you look at it from an observer

792
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,840
perspective so in the moment you're not

793
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:10,000
encased in those feelings again but

794
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,520
afterwards yeah you are still going to

795
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,960
have to

796
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,720
process it all it took me

797
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,120
after my i did my first two regressions

798
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,640
fairly near each other the most of the

799
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,919
information came out in the first one

800
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,440
but it was like seven years of

801
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,200
processing it before i was going to do

802
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:25,919
the third one yeah

803
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:29,360
interesting uh albert what uh did what

804
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,720
counters have you had or encounter

805
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,480
can you give me a second i have to turn

806
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,480
down a radio for some reason that turned

807
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,919
on here it's really loud and it's

808
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:40,080
bothering me okay benson sent me a

809
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,120
message

810
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,279
thomas uh thomas can you tell us what uh

811
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:45,760
you experienced yeah and you know i've

812
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,320
not found anybody that's been in ufology

813
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,399
or been involved with mufon an

814
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:53,120
investigator in any degree that has not

815
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,080
had a personal experience to some degree

816
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,080
in their life and uh

817
00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,200
mine started with my my grandma had some

818
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:02,960
experiences and then

819
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,840
the only encounter i ever had was one

820
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,120
and i'm

821
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,519
67 years old now i can't believe it but

822
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,240
my most vivid memory in life

823
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:14,799
it still comes back from

824
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:17,519
when i was about six seven years old

825
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:20,320
uh one evening in my room

826
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,000
in a thunderstorm and i was awoken i

827
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,039
got out of bed and uh got to my window

828
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,440
there was a cedar chest got up on there

829
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,960
and i was looking out in the field

830
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:32,720
behind our house

831
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,519
and

832
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,440
you know for a long time i didn't even

833
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,679
want to and one thing about mufon when

834
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,159
you're when you're trained as being an

835
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,519
you know

836
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:43,840
investigator and i was trained by an air

837
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,799
force colonel called jim cross and uh

838
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,960
you didn't interject anything even your

839
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,480
body language you're trained you know

840
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:54,240
you don't interject so i always found it

841
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,840
easier i never talked about my

842
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,519
experiences but

843
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,320
but one evening i was awoken and got to

844
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,320
the cedar chest looked out the window at

845
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:04,159
the field with what i thought was

846
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,200
lightning

847
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,000
and as i'm looking out the window

848
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,320
coming across i could see from my right

849
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:11,919
right in front of me

850
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,080
now at the time i didn't even know you

851
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,480
know what a reptilian was

852
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,799
and uh there again you always have to

853
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,240
question

854
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,840
your your own reality and artificial

855
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,320
sensations maybe substituting

856
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:28,399
what you're seeing for some reason or

857
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:29,360
another

858
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,240
and uh yeah that's pretty close to the

859
00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:34,720
face what i've seen with big yellow eyes

860
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,799
but as it got right parallel in front of

861
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,640
me it turned

862
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,720
and looked me right in the eyes with

863
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,799
these big yellow eyes

864
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,000
now

865
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,559
the next thing i remember was i woke up

866
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:48,000
the next morning

867
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:51,600
on the floor in my parents bedroom

868
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:53,519
and my father i didn't understand the

869
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,480
anger

870
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,159
he got out of bed and stepped right on

871
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,480
my stomach and of course he was angry he

872
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,159
thought he injured me

873
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:02,399
and he said what are you doing here

874
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,440
and

875
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:05,760
the only thing i could say to him was

876
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,559
t-rex man was in my room or t-rex man

877
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:10,480
was outside my room

878
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,279
and

879
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:13,760
to this day that is the most vivid

880
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,960
memory i think i have

881
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,360
now that was a one-time experience

882
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:22,080
no craft nothing like that

883
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:25,279
i i the unique thing about it was bruce

884
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:28,880
whitaman the state director for missouri

885
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,360
lived not too far from me at the time as

886
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,039
the crow flies

887
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:35,919
and had a very vivid experience and

888
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,720
abduction scenario and that's what got

889
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:40,399
him in ufology

890
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,360
so

891
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,000
i will tell you in off the record

892
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,200
i have not run into anybody that is an

893
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:49,200
investigator or works with mufon or been

894
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,399
in this field

895
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:52,480
that has not had a personal experience

896
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,440
like that i only know of one

897
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,120
and that's stan gordon

898
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,440
yeah and he'll admit that i mean you

899
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,760
know stan will tell you i had never had

900
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,240
an encounter any of anything i've seen a

901
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,080
ufo but i've never had an encounter or

902
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,480
any being or anything and he is he's

903
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,079
he's an exception because most people

904
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,760
seem to have had an encounter of some

905
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,440
type

906
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,599
so uh albert what uh

907
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:17,599
what have you experienced

908
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:18,560
well

909
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:20,800
the one that i remember most

910
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,520
most is uh back in maybe seven or eight

911
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:25,200
years old i was in

912
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,800
in cuba

913
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,399
um

914
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,760
they were all we were all sitting

915
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:32,000
outside it was one of those days or one

916
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,200
of those nights where they had a

917
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,599
blackout so people used to when they had

918
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:37,119
the blackout they will sit outside and

919
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,320
talk

920
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:41,280
and we were sitting there and across the

921
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:44,800
street over a house a craft

922
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:47,839
that i remember was sort of

923
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,079
egg shaped or

924
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:52,399
like this it

925
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,320
very luminous appear metallic it flew by

926
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,560
and everyone there was

927
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,320
saying look you know some of the people

928
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,320
who scream saying look the americans

929
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,560
because that was during the time of the

930
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,119
yeah the bail pigs and uh

931
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:09,680
yeah all that uh

932
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:12,560
almost world war three but anyway

933
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,800
uh it flew by and

934
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,320
for some reason i wasn't

935
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,119
drawn to it interest and i ran after it

936
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:21,359
or under it and it went behind a field

937
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:22,960
where i lived

938
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,480
i stood under it i looked up

939
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:30,000
and i i was just fascinated and next

940
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:31,839
thing i knew my mother was calling me

941
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,480
and

942
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,800
i felt like i was i was all wet

943
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,720
and rain

944
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:38,160
and my mother wanted to know where i had

945
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,119
been it was really late at night so

946
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,640
and i never gone

947
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,560
have done a regression

948
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,280
which i hope to to do one day see what

949
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,119
what really happened that day

950
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,200
interesting but that's one of the

951
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:53,599
interesting encounters that i had

952
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,880
i also had like what i like to call a

953
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:59,520
an apparition or a ghostly encounter and

954
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,160
also in cuba where my house

955
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:04,560
that the area where i lived is

956
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,839
pretty old you know a lot of the spanish

957
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,760
used to construct that in that area

958
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:11,119
there

959
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,560
uh

960
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:14,640
i was walking along from the kitchen

961
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,599
through

962
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,119
to my uh

963
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,760
bedroom there was a corridor

964
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,560
a hallway and there was a mirror and in

965
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:24,480
the center of the hallway

966
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:25,920
and i was walking by and i looked at the

967
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,640
mirror and there was a man

968
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,119
a man's head face

969
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,280
he looked like he was wearing a helmet

970
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:35,119
like metallic

971
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:36,800
like those helmets that the spanish

972
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,680
conquistadors wore i swear to god and he

973
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:42,320
had a beard black beard and he was just

974
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,829
you know i mean i was a kid i had no

975
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,560
idea what's going on i yelled at my mom

976
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,720
she ran over and i pointed at the mirror

977
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:54,960
of course he was gone

978
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:56,800
and

979
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,640
that was that's interesting because i

980
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:00,800
had just had a report from pennsylvania

981
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,280
by pennsylvania hunter who had a

982
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,400
conquistador frontier

983
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,400
of them up in the boondocks up in the

984
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,320
mountains of pennsylvania i think i read

985
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:10,320
that in your yeah yeah that was

986
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:11,440
interesting

987
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,079
and lynn you know in your bio you had

988
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:16,320
you had mentioned about your um

989
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,119
your great grandmother why uh

990
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:21,359
it had appeared before you read or she

991
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,560
passed

992
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,400
and i had the same experience with my

993
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,960
great aunt she appeared before myself my

994
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,800
mother and my grandmother at three

995
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,640
different locations

996
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,800
at the same time we were on the phone as

997
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,800
soon as it happened so

998
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,240
yeah i mean people are questioning these

999
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:38,160
things but they do happen i guess they

1000
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,440
connect and

1001
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,000
they really have it really you know

1002
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,320
so um i i got an interesting question

1003
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:47,440
here from summer night uh about faraday

1004
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,640
cages and if they can stop the i assume

1005
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,560
the aliens from planting or reading

1006
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,240
mines or

1007
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,720
maybe even the government can or

1008
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,560
what are your do you think the faraday

1009
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,720
cages are valid or do you think that

1010
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:02,839
there's any validity to that to

1011
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,079
that uh lin let me start with you

1012
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,630
i'm not sure i mean i

1013
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,320
from my understanding of faraday cages

1014
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:14,480
and i'm certainly not an expert in them

1015
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:16,839
as they block electromagnetic

1016
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:20,800
frequencies um so it depends on i guess

1017
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:23,200
what technology or

1018
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,000
um

1019
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,520
you know if it's a consciousness-based

1020
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,040
technology i feel weird we're using the

1021
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:29,040
word technology but i don't really know

1022
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,079
um

1023
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,920
another way to to put it it depends on

1024
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,520
what the aliens are doing how they're

1025
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,280
doing it if it's not electromagnetic

1026
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,800
then i don't think a faraday cage would

1027
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:38,880
do much as far as the government

1028
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:40,000
possibly

1029
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:41,520
yeah

1030
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:45,920
who who's trying to block the government

1031
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:47,920
and getting into their head and

1032
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,400
they uh they probably ever construct

1033
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,320
these faraday cages

1034
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,680
i just thought it was an interesting

1035
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,040
question for uh for this discussion to

1036
00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:58,800
uh thomas do you have any thoughts on

1037
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,079
that in like she's in some instance it

1038
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:04,880
can be useful it depends uh

1039
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,280
but but you always have to realize we're

1040
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:09,760
dealing with an intelligence that is

1041
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,880
always one step ahead of you it always

1042
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,839
knows where you're going to go

1043
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:18,000
it just so and you're dealing with such

1044
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:21,839
a wide range of technology here uh

1045
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,839
you know out in marley the one thing

1046
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,440
that we dealt with that was really

1047
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,680
detrimental to us and i don't know how

1048
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:30,240
you protect against it and

1049
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,040
uh

1050
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,640
there's a phenomenon out there called

1051
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:35,200
the light beam now just quite briefly

1052
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,800
what that means is there's

1053
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,320
the old-timers have seen this

1054
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,240
experienced it and it's a light beam

1055
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,200
that's sweeping around uh we believe

1056
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,280
it's high in microwave energy content

1057
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,400
because

1058
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:49,200
uh it did hit myself another individual

1059
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,040
and ted phillips and i

1060
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,040
it came up and hit our vehicle and i

1061
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,440
hate to draw the analogy to the scene

1062
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,440
from close encounters but that's exactly

1063
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,760
what we had happen it came up on our

1064
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:02,160
vehicle was there and we jumped out it

1065
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,880
was

1066
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,880
illuminated the inside of the vehicle so

1067
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,560
brightly you couldn't even see and i

1068
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,000
asked ted i said

1069
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,560
are you seeing this ted and he said ted

1070
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,720
said well hell yes i'm seeing this tom

1071
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,560
and we jumped out which wasn't a wise

1072
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,839
thing to do

1073
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:17,920
and we looked up and we seen i know a

1074
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:20,000
little bit about lighting and this was

1075
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,960
of such a i just we i just worked on a

1076
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,960
television show we tried to recreate a

1077
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,960
light beam in the field

1078
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,720
and i don't know how you could do this

1079
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,319
to the intensity

1080
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:32,560
but when we jumped out we seen a light

1081
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,160
beam retract from us in the vehicle and

1082
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,880
you could see a definite cut-off end

1083
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,119
and it retracted no structured craft

1084
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,599
anything above us where it went into but

1085
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,680
as ted said it it went into like a

1086
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,240
twisting reflex action like in an old

1087
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:49,760
shutter and a camera

1088
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:52,319
and it was just snapped out it was gone

1089
00:40:57,510 --> 00:40:53,359
and

1090
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,520
physically sick

1091
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,960
uh

1092
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,800
and i thought i was fortunate at the

1093
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:02,079
time i didn't

1094
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,200
get sick

1095
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,359
didn't vomit and

1096
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:06,880
in hindsight i wished i would have

1097
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,920
because i came away then years

1098
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,760
with through the next year

1099
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,720
uh i had dark brown hair at the time and

1100
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,240
i went back

1101
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,240
two weeks later went back home

1102
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,400
i had a scalp thing they thought i had

1103
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:22,480
shingles i couldn't touch my

1104
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,359
head

1105
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:24,720
and they just determined it was some

1106
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,920
kind of burn

1107
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,599
radiation or sun

1108
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,920
the local doctor and uh

1109
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:32,079
then in the process over a month my hair

1110
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,200
turned from

1111
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:35,359
dark brown to what you see today which

1112
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,480
is blonde

1113
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,480
possibly white

1114
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,200
and then i had eye troubles i had

1115
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:44,560
macular cysts and cataracts removed

1116
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,359
so

1117
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:48,000
there are physical effects from this and

1118
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,200
it happens

1119
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,200
and they've experienced this similar to

1120
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:53,920
this at skinwalker over the years

1121
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:56,480
so it does happen so i just want to warn

1122
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:57,680
people when they get out there in the

1123
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:58,640
field

1124
00:42:02,630 --> 00:41:59,599
uh

1125
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,640
be careful and always have some you know

1126
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,800
we we'd always go out in pairs and we'd

1127
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,000
always have

1128
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,640
some type of equipment to monitor and in

1129
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,040
our case we deemed it to be microwave

1130
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,960
spectrum radiation

1131
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,960
and always be prepared and and be

1132
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,760
looking for this you know so

1133
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:18,960
uh

1134
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,040
but but there is that reality to it

1135
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:24,880
so albert uh what do you think i guess

1136
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:27,920
the tinfoil hats don't work either

1137
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,839
no i tried it and then it worked

1138
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:34,240
but you know i think faraday cases i

1139
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,760
don't know too much about them

1140
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:37,280
but i think it's a waste of time because

1141
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,400
i don't think that's going to stop

1142
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,400
anything if they really wanted to

1143
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:42,160
prove us thinking that it's not going to

1144
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:42,960
stop

1145
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:46,000
and i agree tom here you know they

1146
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,760
a lot of people

1147
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,280
they want to have an encounter they want

1148
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,640
to rush in and

1149
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,880
greet the aliens or whoever they are but

1150
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:53,920
i don't

1151
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:58,480
only fools rush in okay

1152
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,599
stay back

1153
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,280
and see what happens but there's too

1154
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,680
many cases that i know about i

1155
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,119
read about

1156
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,560
in which

1157
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,720
uh people their hair turns white

1158
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:10,640
overnight yeah there's been a lot of

1159
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:13,040
cases that in south america that's

1160
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,319
overnight

1161
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,640
and many people have died after an

1162
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:19,119
encounter oh yes suffering from

1163
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,560
radiation

1164
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,160
symptoms in spain and south america even

1165
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,079
here in the u.s

1166
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,599
so

1167
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,200
i'm not saying all the encounters are

1168
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:30,880
like that way but

1169
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,000
yeah you have to be careful you have to

1170
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:36,079
uh we got a question here and i i can

1171
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:37,760
answer this a little bit uh vincent asks

1172
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,240
do extraterrestrials remove fuel

1173
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,800
and and like we try to remove remote

1174
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,400
view them well

1175
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,480
i'm a train remote viewer

1176
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,640
so i have tried this

1177
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,880
and uh i think they can

1178
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,880
but i think they have the ability to to

1179
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,280
stop it i had a i was involved with a

1180
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,680
remote view when i was training

1181
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:58,720
where

1182
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:01,599
the monitor had sent me into

1183
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:04,800
a location off earth and uh i don't know

1184
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,480
where i was but i was in a cabin and

1185
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:10,960
this i mean this thing was huge

1186
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,359
and you know walk through it it was

1187
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:16,079
very humid smell it

1188
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,319
seemed like the walls are alive

1189
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,079
i walked through this thing and i got to

1190
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,160
a location where they were it looked

1191
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,480
like humans were sitting there working

1192
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,720
on some type of controls and such there

1193
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,560
was a big window there

1194
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,040
and this huge

1195
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,079
t-rex looking thing came walking

1196
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:35,440
in

1197
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,680
through my remote view

1198
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:44,160
and i i kept looking at it until this

1199
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,800
thing looked at me

1200
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:48,319
then i

1201
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,240
realized this thing saw me somehow

1202
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,359
the monitor pulled me out immediately

1203
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,760
but uh i think they do have the ability

1204
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,720
to either stew it or stop it uh you know

1205
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,240
when i've been involved with the david

1206
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,720
eckhart case and um

1207
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,640
when i first started working with him we

1208
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,560
tried several remote views with him and

1209
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:11,119
got cut off immediately i mean it just

1210
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:12,640
everything went blank

1211
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,920
now i i know you discussed reviewing uh

1212
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:18,880
lynn what are your thoughts on that

1213
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:21,920
uh i i agree 100 um

1214
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,920
that absolutely they can look in on us i

1215
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,599
mean again like like we've all kind of

1216
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,599
said we have to remember these beings

1217
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:29,200
and it's not just one particular race

1218
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,040
but these beings are much more advanced

1219
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:34,079
than we are by who knows how much

1220
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,839
you know could be millions of years more

1221
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,240
advanced than we are so any capability

1222
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:40,640
that we have they are going to have

1223
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:43,680
tenfold if not more um and i've heard a

1224
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,280
lot of people say the same thing that

1225
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:47,280
that you were just saying about how they

1226
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,599
were remote viewing or um

1227
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,119
whether they intentionally did you or

1228
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,119
not sometimes to kind of stumble upon

1229
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,440
you know like these alien beings but

1230
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,920
have them have the same experience they

1231
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,079
they just turn and like make almost like

1232
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:02,400
make eye contact with them and they

1233
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,680
realize that they're being seen so um

1234
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,680
i think they absolutely can and if you

1235
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,440
think about it it's a much safer way for

1236
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,960
them if they're going to be checking in

1237
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,960
on people if that's what they're doing

1238
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:14,480
it's a much safer way for them to do it

1239
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,920
i mean i wouldn't want to physically

1240
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:17,680
come to this planet i think that'd be

1241
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:21,280
crazy i wouldn't want to do it

1242
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,119
you know when i had when i went into

1243
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,119
this location i was scared to death i

1244
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:26,720
swear to god because i had no idea where

1245
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:29,040
i was going to yeah it was part of my

1246
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,240
training

1247
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,000
but uh yeah it was it was quite an

1248
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,960
experience um thomas here

1249
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:37,040
yeah can i ask you a quick question yeah

1250
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:37,920
go ahead

1251
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,400
so sorry tom so

1252
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,960
this is very fascinating so

1253
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,960
with this remote did the remote viewer

1254
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,720
or the person that was training you did

1255
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,640
they know where they were sending you

1256
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:50,079
they did

1257
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:50,800
yes

1258
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,440
what what i tell you i i don't know if

1259
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,599
you're going to um

1260
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,319
uh scientific reviewing or coordinating

1261
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,800
reviewing you know you use a series of

1262
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,839
numbers

1263
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:02,800
yeah

1264
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,960
and uh

1265
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:06,480
i don't know they

1266
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,200
knew exactly where they were sending me

1267
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,200
but i i think

1268
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,119
you know and i i don't know how that's

1269
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,119
exactly done i mean i've never been a

1270
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,680
monitor you know i kind of have been

1271
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,800
involved with remote view sessions

1272
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,319
with teams

1273
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,480
where would be a different locations and

1274
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,960
get together and put all our findings

1275
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,480
together

1276
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,839
but uh

1277
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,599
i mean that's what they were sending me

1278
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:33,680
and that's their their intention was to

1279
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:36,160
send me someplace other than on earth

1280
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:37,040
yeah

1281
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,640
that of course you didn't tell me that

1282
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,800
but that's what happened oh so that was

1283
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,440
just nice

1284
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,520
yeah wow so clearly they knew something

1285
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,240
was there wherever well i told her

1286
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:50,000
i told her look there's something here

1287
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,440
it's not something's not right she

1288
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:53,119
pulled me out

1289
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,960
so uh yeah

1290
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,720
all right sorry thomas what do you say

1291
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:58,640
no i i was just going to say that one

1292
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:01,200
thing i always remember that i was told

1293
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,319
is

1294
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,480
a lot of what comes through in most in

1295
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:06,240
fact what comes through the dimensional

1296
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:07,520
boundaries

1297
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,559
has not the authority to be here

1298
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,119
and it's not good that's not to say at

1299
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,800
times there are things that have the

1300
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,559
authority that come through

1301
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:17,440
that

1302
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,680
what i was told

1303
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,880
so

1304
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:27,119
and you i always keep that in the back

1305
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,720
of my mind when i'm dealing and i do

1306
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:30,079
believe that

1307
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,520
fear is a factor as a tool that they use

1308
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,839
either they feed off it for energy or

1309
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,400
they use it to manipulate people

1310
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:40,960
to do whatever they they wish or to see

1311
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,520
quite frankly like ted said we we

1312
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,040
thought we were in a living laboratory

1313
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,880
and at times he felt like

1314
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,960
they we were in their laboratory and

1315
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:51,200
they were experimenting on us

1316
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,480
uh

1317
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,000
because we just had so many things

1318
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,920
happen to us and animals

1319
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,400
had large amounts of cattle mutilation

1320
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,839
and uh

1321
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,160
things happened to horses and barns it

1322
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:04,880
is unimaginable

1323
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:05,920
that

1324
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,720
a large part of what comes through does

1325
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,200
not have the authority to be here

1326
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,040
so

1327
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,720
it's always you have to question its

1328
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,200
motivation so right

1329
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,680
so albert what do you think

1330
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,599
well i uh it's interesting that you

1331
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,079
mentioned that you you say you were

1332
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:28,240
remote viewed of world but you don't

1333
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,599
know where

1334
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,280
mars the moon

1335
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,520
no no exactly but it's funny that you

1336
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,079
mention a cavern and a reptilian because

1337
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,760
a lot of the encounters of reptilians

1338
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:38,720
are

1339
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:42,960
occurred in caverns underground

1340
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,079
here on earth mm-hmm yeah right

1341
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,720
david eckhart situation and i wrote

1342
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,800
about in my book i mean you know

1343
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,240
he was taken to

1344
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:54,400
what he believes is is a cavern on the

1345
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:55,359
planet

1346
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,240
and uh by this reptilian and those that

1347
00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:00,240
smaller beings that were working with

1348
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:01,040
him

1349
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,720
and are it and um yeah it seems that

1350
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:07,040
they were taken to those locations so i

1351
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:08,319
don't know

1352
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,200
uh

1353
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:11,839
rd rd 666

1354
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,520
killer the researcher native american

1355
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,599
in her books she mentions a lot of

1356
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,520
encounters with reptilians

1357
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,040
underground in

1358
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,160
vietnam during the vietnam war and some

1359
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,559
here in the uh in the u.s i've gotten

1360
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,559
those as well from fascinating

1361
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,720
ex-servicemen absolutely

1362
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,680
yeah

1363
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,920
you know it's interesting uh we got a

1364
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,079
question from vince and it kind of ties

1365
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,559
in with with this is uh

1366
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:40,400
okay they're here and they're doing what

1367
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:42,640
they're doing they're you know abducting

1368
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,160
or showing up

1369
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:46,000
what do these aliens want what's their

1370
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:48,160
agenda

1371
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,680
lin do you have any idea what their

1372
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:52,079
agenda is

1373
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,359
um well vincent that's a big question

1374
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,839
yet again um i don't know again there's

1375
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,599
a lot of different types of ets that

1376
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,960
we're talking about and i think they're

1377
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,559
each going to have their own agendas

1378
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,079
just like we do

1379
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,920
so um

1380
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:07,040
and and then

1381
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,319
it gets very complicated that's the

1382
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,319
thing i love about this this whole

1383
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:12,000
phenomena is it's very complicated

1384
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,760
there's many layers right there's no one

1385
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,520
answer to everything

1386
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,520
um and so you could look at even just

1387
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:19,760
the grays alone and i've heard from

1388
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,599
different experiencers um that there

1389
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,880
there are

1390
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,640
i've heard like up to 60 something

1391
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,240
different types of grays that we know

1392
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,839
about and each one of those types might

1393
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,599
have their own agenda

1394
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:33,119
so um

1395
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,720
it's almost an impossible question to

1396
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,240
answer though we all want to know of

1397
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,079
course why are they here some are

1398
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:40,319
working with our governments i do think

1399
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,760
some um

1400
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,359
you know i am a big proponent of

1401
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,079
believing that possibly we were um our d

1402
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,240
our g our dna excuse me our dna was

1403
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,240
manipulated way back when and that's how

1404
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,839
we kind of became who we are so maybe

1405
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,440
they're here checking up on us seeing

1406
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,520
how their experiment is going or

1407
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,760
whatever it is they think of us as yeah

1408
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,559
um

1409
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:00,960
they were the experiment that went that

1410
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:05,200
keeps on giving to them right yeah

1411
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:06,079
yeah

1412
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:12,480
americans that i've talked to about this

1413
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:13,200
and

1414
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,000
uh

1415
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,559
their name for this is

1416
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,440
in their representation they call them

1417
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,040
the tricksters

1418
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,440
is how they refer to a lot of this

1419
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:24,720
and uh

1420
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,200
at times we just we come across that so

1421
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:29,280
much even in marley that

1422
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:34,079
uh it's it's more about the manipulation

1423
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,520
of

1424
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:38,240
people and uh seeing how they'll respond

1425
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:39,440
to things

1426
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,280
in various ways and i do believe

1427
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,440
again a lot of what they have the

1428
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,800
ability

1429
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,800
to

1430
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,200
change your perception of reality and

1431
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,200
when you have that ability

1432
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,040
you just always have to question what

1433
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,400
you're seeing

1434
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:58,800
and uh what you're experiencing you know

1435
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:01,359
as if i even do myself you know my

1436
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:03,200
memories and uh

1437
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,319
it's just

1438
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:06,880
it goes into a lot of

1439
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,200
uh believe me such high strangeness out

1440
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:11,200
there that uh and i've seen it done to

1441
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,559
people and you know the

1442
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,200
the older people around marley they

1443
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,839
they have a unique ability to perceive

1444
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:19,680
things before they happen

1445
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,839
the light ball activity and all the

1446
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:23,359
other phenomena

1447
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,040
and uh some of them will go in their

1448
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:26,800
house and they think it's demonic it

1449
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,920
won't come out and others back from the

1450
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,440
20s and 30s

1451
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,760
used to drag lawn chairs on out on the

1452
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:35,440
weekend and use this as a source of

1453
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,599
entertainment to watch these things and

1454
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:39,440
they felt it had a good

1455
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,839
you know so it's just

1456
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,680
it's just complex it's it's a

1457
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,200
complicated

1458
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,200
uh

1459
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,280
phenomena it really is

1460
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:51,760
what do you think albert

1461
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,119
yeah you know what as far as the agenda

1462
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:56,880
i learned a long time ago that if you're

1463
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,000
going to

1464
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:01,359
research in ufos or related phenomena do

1465
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,680
you think you're going to solve the

1466
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,200
problem in

1467
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,800
a year or six months

1468
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,680
you're never going to make it you're

1469
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,359
going to yeah

1470
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:10,640
i

1471
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:14,079
cases but

1472
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,200
a lot of people

1473
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,359
they ask you the question so so why are

1474
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,200
they here or what what do they want from

1475
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:21,280
us i wish i knew if i knew that i

1476
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:22,400
wouldn't

1477
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,720
uh i don't know as far as that yeah

1478
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,280
well i have one theory and i and this is

1479
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,000
just like a combination of cases i've

1480
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,559
been worked with in the past 30 years

1481
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,839
with people

1482
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,880
is that

1483
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:38,880
i i believe that

1484
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,720
the abductions the agenda

1485
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:44,799
are related to one thing

1486
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,599
primarily is that

1487
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,000
i i like i said before i i think many of

1488
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:53,280
these races are evolved humans

1489
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,319
you know eons and eons of evolution

1490
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,480
and that i think they lost something

1491
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:00,720
that they may have had in the past but

1492
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,280
they know that we still do have

1493
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:05,280
and that is a human soul

1494
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,640
of

1495
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,240
a life force

1496
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:10,240
and it's something they don't comprehend

1497
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:11,200
now

1498
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:15,119
experiencers who have told me that you

1499
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,799
know

1500
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,240
when they have had converse

1501
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:20,640
conversations with these beings they do

1502
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,440
believe in a higher being a higher deity

1503
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,280
something that they espouse to like our

1504
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:27,040
god

1505
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,160
but

1506
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:30,559
they do not have

1507
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,319
any concept of life after death uh to

1508
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,040
where you know humans believe that

1509
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,079
their life force their soul ascends to

1510
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,839
another level

1511
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,880
and

1512
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:44,319
that

1513
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:50,319
either by adduction experimentation

1514
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,200
hybridization or whatever

1515
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:54,960
but i i think it's an interesting

1516
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,440
concept i've asked people about that for

1517
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,720
years now

1518
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,319
i kind of get a lot of different answers

1519
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,280
to that but uh that's just my thought at

1520
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:07,589
well i and you know a lot of people

1521
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,040
think that

1522
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:10,880
some researchers that i other

1523
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,359
researchers i spoke to and maybe there's

1524
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,520
a grain of truth to it that they're

1525
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,520
trying to modify

1526
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,680
the genetics the human genetics they're

1527
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,599
trying to create another

1528
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:26,309
they're trying to modify homo sapiens to

1529
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,160
becoming

1530
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:30,400
another type of

1531
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,599
uh

1532
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,760
or maybe they're trying to replace us

1533
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,280
well maybe they're looking with it with

1534
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,839
the hybrids like singularity as a for

1535
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,079
with them but you know

1536
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:42,079
have their have us and them be more

1537
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:45,599
singular to each other

1538
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:51,030
it's interesting

1539
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,559
it is interesting

1540
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,040
i have her i talked with um

1541
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:57,119
an experienced name is paul hamden and

1542
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,240
he works with the zetas and he talked

1543
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,680
about this kind of very phenomena which

1544
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:03,440
you might find interesting on which was

1545
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,750
spirit realm reincarnation cycle

1546
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,599
whatever you want to call it and so

1547
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,599
other planets may have their own so it's

1548
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,520
not to say that other beings can't

1549
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,160
reincarnate and live different lives but

1550
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,960
that we have our own here on earth

1551
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:24,160
now of course that gets a little more

1552
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,839
complicated if you're talking looking at

1553
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,000
people being hybrids or hybrids living

1554
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:29,760
on this planet then you know because

1555
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,000
then do you have the way he described it

1556
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,160
was is the hybrids living on this planet

1557
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,799
aren't necessarily genetically

1558
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:39,119
hybrids but what it is it's an et

1559
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:40,720
consciousness and a human consciousness

1560
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,839
combined in a human form right so then

1561
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,839
what happens maybe those consciousnesses

1562
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,079
separate um i don't know what the plural

1563
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,720
for consciousness is um but maybe they

1564
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:51,839
separate

1565
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,000
back to kind of their home planets i

1566
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,760
don't really know but it's a fascinating

1567
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:05,040
concept

1568
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:07,119
yeah i mean i i'm just going by what

1569
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,559
i've collected over the years and it

1570
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,319
just seems that

1571
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:12,799
that this whole soul thing has something

1572
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,280
to do with you i mean that when the the

1573
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,200
physical part dies

1574
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:19,599
that there's an ethereal or

1575
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:22,480
life force that ascends maybe it's even

1576
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,000
just a dimensional thing it goes to

1577
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,799
another dimension but you know i don't

1578
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:28,559
want to get into the religious aspects

1579
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,079
of this or you know

1580
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,280
but uh

1581
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,960
that's one of the things so you know you

1582
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,480
touched upon that

1583
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,480
the what comes across a lot of it

1584
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,000
doesn't have the authority to be here

1585
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,640
that that coincides with the higher

1586
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,520
power

1587
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:43,680
uh and what when it what does come

1588
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,400
across that has the authority does good

1589
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,400
so uh and one of the things i had the

1590
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,920
biggest questions when i dealt with

1591
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,880
people

1592
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:52,720
over the years that were in the know and

1593
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,960
far smarter than i i always wanted to

1594
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:55,839
know i

1595
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:59,520
i because i dealt in uh the aztec crash

1596
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,319
in

1597
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,319
new mexico and different ones you know

1598
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:04,319
we were there with stanton freeman and

1599
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,200
uh

1600
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,599
and different crashes cape toronto and

1601
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,920
roswell of course and i thought you know

1602
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,440
and when i was speaking with people that

1603
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:13,200
were in the know and uh

1604
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,079
i said

1605
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:16,400
what with that technology

1606
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,799
why is are there so many crashes and one

1607
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,880
of the things they told me and it was so

1608
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,720
simplistic when they explained this to

1609
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:25,119
me uh they said well

1610
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:26,880
the ones that come across sometimes

1611
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,040
don't have the authority to be here what

1612
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,119
happens when a young person in our

1613
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,680
culture steals a car

1614
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,599
and they don't have the skills to

1615
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,920
operate it or something's chasing them

1616
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,760
what always happens and i all you know i

1617
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,920
said well they always crash and then it

1618
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:43,680
just dawned on me what they were trying

1619
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:46,799
to tell me and i said it's the same

1620
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:47,680
same

1621
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,640
you know

1622
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:50,000
same occurrence

1623
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,799
uh

1624
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,799
they don't have the authority to be here

1625
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:54,079
so

1626
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:55,119
it made

1627
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,799
because i couldn't understand

1628
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,400
that technology how come they were

1629
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,480
crashing so much you know interesting

1630
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,760
yeah

1631
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:06,480
and and by the way we did we did recover

1632
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,280
crash debris i will tell you and uh

1633
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:11,280
and people i worked with that were

1634
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,200
exposed to that i will tell you it's

1635
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:16,000
real and yes we do have crash debris and

1636
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,440
and they've actually

1637
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:19,280
the government's admitted that now you

1638
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,480
know but

1639
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:22,400
but the culture nobody even seems to

1640
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,359
recognize that fact now so

1641
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,559
look they care more about the

1642
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:28,960
kardashians than yeah yeah you know

1643
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,349
or they are here

1644
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,710
exactly

1645
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:40,720
i do believe a lot of what's coming

1646
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,319
through now uh you know

1647
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,400
i just think disclosure is not going to

1648
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:48,400
be what people think it is no i don't

1649
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:51,119
either from what i'm told from people

1650
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,960
behind the scenes that i've worked with

1651
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:54,319
and in the know

1652
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:55,599
that

1653
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:57,440
and this goes even a

1654
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,079
a woman that i greatly respect that was

1655
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:02,720
von braun's secretary

1656
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,359
um and von braun warned of this there's

1657
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,680
going to be a largest false flag

1658
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:08,880
operation

1659
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,640
portrayed on mankind that's ever

1660
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,319
happened and it's

1661
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,559
and even people that have worked you

1662
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,319
know alan heineck

1663
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:18,559
predicted this ray stanford talked about

1664
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:19,520
this

1665
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,559
uh stan freeman ted uh

1666
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,319
it's not going to be what you think it

1667
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,119
is and um it's

1668
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:29,680
it's not at all an alien technology

1669
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,880
that's here to benefit mankind and so

1670
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:34,319
and i do believe their hands being

1671
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:37,359
forced and not by us i'll say so

1672
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,640
uh so there again unless you spoke of uh

1673
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:42,960
be careful for what what you wish for

1674
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,799
yeah

1675
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,799
i got a question here from james west

1676
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:48,799
how many alien races do you think there

1677
01:01:54,069 --> 01:01:51,200
are oh my that's a good question and how

1678
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,079
many are we in contact with

1679
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,559
diplomatically

1680
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:59,200
i got a quick answer to that okay

1681
01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,920
and

1682
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:02,160
as many as you want yeah

1683
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:04,000
yeah yeah

1684
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:05,680
i mean that that's a question for the

1685
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,750
i mean

1686
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:11,760
you know i could ask you i could ask you

1687
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:13,119
albert i mean

1688
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,119
how many different types of humanoids

1689
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:16,720
and beings have you

1690
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:19,359
documented i mean it's i mean between

1691
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:21,520
only let's talk about the grays they got

1692
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:24,640
tall grays thin grays

1693
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:27,200
grays would uh wrap around eyes graves

1694
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,599
with round eyes the different you know

1695
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,039
there's a maybe

1696
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,039
like like like linsette 100 type of

1697
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:35,280
grains different types of uh

1698
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,720
and then we go into the other type of

1699
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:38,480
humanoids they're like

1700
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,000
like the un

1701
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,240
they're like uh

1702
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,480
i mean look at we have a

1703
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:46,319
who knows there are

1704
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:47,119
so

1705
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,359
many dimensional you know many

1706
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:51,760
dimensions out there or parallel worlds

1707
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:54,160
like i said other realms

1708
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:55,599
the universe is

1709
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:56,799
is

1710
01:03:01,829 --> 01:03:00,000
huge so who knows i mean well you got

1711
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:01,839
even when you talk when you say alien

1712
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:04,079
races i mean you could be talking about

1713
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,920
other beings as well like wing beans

1714
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,160
that call themselves ultra terrestrials

1715
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:10,559
like what i'm been investigating and and

1716
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,960
other you know other phenomena even

1717
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:14,880
cryptids could be

1718
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,480
some type of

1719
01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:18,799
uh non-terrestrial which i think they

1720
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,319
very well may be

1721
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:22,079
uh so when you ask that question how

1722
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:24,319
many of these races are there well it's

1723
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,319
you know there could be as many as you

1724
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:28,480
want to believe how about the shadow the

1725
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:29,920
shadow of people

1726
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:32,319
figures absolutely

1727
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,160
i had an experience with

1728
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,640
with that once and and

1729
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,280
talking about the fear aspect

1730
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:41,039
the fear was so

1731
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:44,160
so big that i i was like trembling i

1732
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:46,880
couldn't move i was in my bed i tried to

1733
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,839
scream i couldn't and there was this

1734
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:52,000
tall figure all black i couldn't see any

1735
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,640
features but standing next to the bed

1736
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,400
and he seems like he was enjoying

1737
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,640
enjoying my fear i was just i was

1738
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:00,559
terrified and and the fear was like

1739
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:03,200
beyond control there again that fear

1740
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:04,160
factor

1741
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:05,839
yeah yeah

1742
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:08,480
and uh i truly i really believe i know

1743
01:04:11,829 --> 01:04:09,839
some people that

1744
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,839
do a science in that and i do believe

1745
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:13,839
shadow people are dimensional beings in

1746
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:15,280
transition

1747
01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:16,400
and um

1748
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:17,520
and

1749
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,200
you always have to temper

1750
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:25,200
this tech this

1751
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,599
intelligence that it has the ability to

1752
01:04:31,510 --> 01:04:29,200
be whatever

1753
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,520
you want it to be at the moment

1754
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:33,200
and i know some

1755
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,680
people in the paranormal aspect of this

1756
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:38,319
but uh i had seen some experiments that

1757
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,960
and some tricks when they went into a

1758
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:42,720
so-called haunted house

1759
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:43,680
and

1760
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,920
they had made up a scenario before they

1761
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:47,440
went in the house

1762
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:48,640
and uh

1763
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,280
about what they were going to look for

1764
01:04:55,510 --> 01:04:53,599
and sure enough when they went in there

1765
01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:55,520
they started questioning the entities

1766
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:56,640
about this

1767
01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:59,760
and it exactly met the profile that they

1768
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,960
had prior

1769
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,960
set what they were going to look for and

1770
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:04,000
find

1771
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:06,799
so this intelligence was what they were

1772
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,440
looking for at the precise time

1773
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:11,520
so you always have to temper what you

1774
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:13,680
see and experience with that ability i

1775
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,190
i also think too though tom like to kind

1776
01:05:23,029 --> 01:05:21,359
of play off of that i think that we also

1777
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,039
have the capability

1778
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:25,520
to create these sort of thought forms

1779
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:27,599
right these beings themselves so if

1780
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:29,440
we're out there saying

1781
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:32,640
all aliens are bad all aliens are evil

1782
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:34,000
that's exactly what we're gonna come

1783
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:35,599
across if we're saying you know i'm

1784
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:36,880
going to go into this haunted house and

1785
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:37,920
i think i'm probably going to find a

1786
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:39,520
demon here you're going to find a demon

1787
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:41,440
you know like i agree with you i think a

1788
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:42,319
lot of times especially in the

1789
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:43,920
paranormal we've seen that quite a lot

1790
01:05:49,430 --> 01:05:46,799
right that whatever they expect to find

1791
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:49,440
is often what they find so entities yeah

1792
01:05:54,069 --> 01:05:51,760
like like slenderman right right and

1793
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:54,079
quite frankly knowing that ahead of time

1794
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:56,480
is the greatest tool that you can have

1795
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,599
to use

1796
01:06:01,510 --> 01:05:59,440
you know to guard yourself and to deal

1797
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,520
with this is knowing that

1798
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:03,039
that can that can

1799
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:04,720
play out just like that you know you

1800
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:07,119
know i just wrote a book about memes and

1801
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:09,440
uh possible thought fault forms and

1802
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:10,640
tulpas

1803
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:13,440
uh you know that manifest uh you know

1804
01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:16,640
the human mind's a crazy thing i mean

1805
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:17,839
uh

1806
01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:19,760
are basically they're you know their

1807
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:21,039
thought forms

1808
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,319
so um

1809
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,200
yeah i i agree with you you know maybe

1810
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,119
what people are seeing identifying as

1811
01:06:31,589 --> 01:06:29,359
extraterrestrials alien are

1812
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:31,599
could also be thought forms it's not

1813
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,640
beyond the

1814
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,160
possibility

1815
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:36,720
some of them could for sure

1816
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,760
um

1817
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:39,359
here here's an interesting question from

1818
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,920
maury gotti now what does the panel

1819
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:43,680
think about eisenhower treaty with the

1820
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:45,920
aliens supposedly now i think they're

1821
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,039
discussing the supposed

1822
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:51,599
giardia treated treaty

1823
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:53,760
where i you know i don't you know

1824
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:55,760
there's been a lot of talk about this

1825
01:07:02,470 --> 01:06:58,960
that apparently eisenhower had a

1826
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:02,480
had a meeting with some alien race at

1827
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,599
holloman air force base at some point

1828
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,839
during his administration i mean you

1829
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:08,960
know

1830
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,200
this this is old ufology

1831
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,119
what do you think about it albert what's

1832
01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,720
your thoughts on that well what i read

1833
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,400
and what i know

1834
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:18,480
not personally but what i

1835
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:19,680
read and

1836
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:21,760
heard is that um

1837
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,559
he encountered two type of races

1838
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,640
at an air force base

1839
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:29,039
one where there's supposedly the

1840
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:30,000
nordic

1841
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,680
tall blonde and the other one was the

1842
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,760
short grace and

1843
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,079
and he was given a choice to make a

1844
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:38,640
a treaty with one of them and i think he

1845
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:40,960
he chose the short grace for some reason

1846
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:43,280
because he

1847
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:46,400
he he asked for technology and uh

1848
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,720
the tall whites or the nordics refused

1849
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,200
to provide technology because they

1850
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:53,280
probably knew we were gonna use it for

1851
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:56,240
war or something yeah you know not

1852
01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:58,079
beneficial and the grace said yeah you

1853
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,240
could have all you want

1854
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:02,079
as long as you give us you know what we

1855
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:02,880
want

1856
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,630
i'm open to earning how about it lynn

1857
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:10,400
yeah yeah i've heard that too i think it

1858
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,240
was in 1954

1859
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,400
uh supposedly he was on vacation and

1860
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:16,960
interrupted interrupted his vacation for

1861
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:17,679
a

1862
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:22,719
um if i remember correctly the uh

1863
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,679
official yeah excuse and that he yeah

1864
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:26,880
met with the

1865
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:29,679
the et's and um in exchange for

1866
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,359
technology they

1867
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,440
allowed them to abduct humans or a

1868
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,040
certain amount of humans or i think

1869
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:37,359
there were some guidelines but um i

1870
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:39,520
don't know it's a fascinating concept i

1871
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:42,159
kind of love the idea of it um

1872
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,400
not the greatest like

1873
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:46,799
meeting maybe or greatest exchange on

1874
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:49,199
our part but i mean laura eisenhower is

1875
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,880
you know adamant that it happened so

1876
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,400
yeah she is yeah

1877
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:54,560
i know you know there's nothing better

1878
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,159
than alien ufology conspiracy stuff i

1879
01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:59,759
mean you know some of the stuff you read

1880
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,279
is just like

1881
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:04,000
yeah it sounds so crazy but then again i

1882
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:05,920
you know over the years i've heard crazy

1883
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,600
things that turned out to be true so you

1884
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,440
know you never know that's true with all

1885
01:09:11,599 --> 01:09:10,799
the stuff we've seen we can't say

1886
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,609
anything it's crazy

1887
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,199
[Music]

1888
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,040
you know i and i try to stay away from

1889
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:17,520
the conspiracy theory stuff i'm the same

1890
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,440
way but then you know

1891
01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:21,440
i dig into it i love it

1892
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,600
it's hard it's hard to stay away from it

1893
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:24,960
though you're right yeah it is it's

1894
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:29,829
you know when you get people sending you

1895
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,480
emails and calling you

1896
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:34,719
about these things and and saying well

1897
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:36,319
is it true

1898
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,799
well you know i guess that depends on

1899
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,319
you i'm not gonna tell you whether it's

1900
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:42,000
true or not i don't know you know

1901
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:43,440
frankly i mean i just give you my

1902
01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:44,640
opinion

1903
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:47,120
but uh you do hear a lot of crazy stuff

1904
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:49,199
and uh

1905
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,880
you know that's just part of what we do

1906
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:52,799
and it's gonna get out there

1907
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:55,600
now i i would like to ask each one each

1908
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,159
one of you to or whoever wants to come

1909
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,640
up with a specific subject they they

1910
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,800
feel that they need to discuss about

1911
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,400
alien encounters

1912
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:06,640
uh how about it then you want to start

1913
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:07,600
off

1914
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:09,840
the most um i'm so sorry i was like

1915
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:11,280
looking at a comment the most important

1916
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:12,719
thing to discuss about this is that what

1917
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,239
the question was yeah um hmm i think

1918
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:17,920
consciousness i think consciousness is

1919
01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:19,600
where it's headed i think it's already

1920
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:21,440
been it's that's where it's at but our

1921
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:24,480
understanding of it is is growing and

1922
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:27,520
changing and i think that is going to be

1923
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:29,120
the key to

1924
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:32,000
really understanding the phenomena is

1925
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:33,520
understanding consciousness and to keep

1926
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:35,679
an open mind because

1927
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:37,040
you know like we were talking about

1928
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,400
these you know the conspiracy theories

1929
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,840
are really fun to dig into at least for

1930
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,199
me i love them

1931
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:43,280
i think they're great but at the same

1932
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,040
time can we really close our minds to

1933
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,960
any of it i mean we've talked to each of

1934
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,719
us has talked to people experiencers

1935
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:50,880
hundreds and hundreds of experiencers

1936
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:52,880
who are adamant that they experience

1937
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:55,440
these things and when i was working with

1938
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:56,800
free part of the reason they brought me

1939
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,840
on was to evaluate people and make sure

1940
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:01,440
that for like our support program to

1941
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,800
make sure that they didn't need mental

1942
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:04,800
health and i can tell you in about i

1943
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,960
think i i talked with over 300 people

1944
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,120
while while i was there only one had to

1945
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,520
be referred to mental health yeah to

1946
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,600
mental health practitioner only one so

1947
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:14,719
these are

1948
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:16,560
you know people that they're sane people

1949
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:17,440
they're

1950
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:21,840
me and their doctors their lawyers from

1951
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:24,400
every walk of life right and so

1952
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,400
we can't sit there and say that it

1953
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,159
didn't happen we can't prove that it

1954
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,480
never happened so because of that we

1955
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,880
have to keep an open mind and that i

1956
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:35,120
think is the biggest lesson that i've

1957
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,040
learned with working with experiencers

1958
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:39,520
is to never completely rule anything out

1959
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:42,400
because i can't say it didn't happen

1960
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,000
that that's i think that's that's

1961
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:46,400
important that's an important statement

1962
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,840
to make that you know as investigators

1963
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:51,920
and researchers we need to keep an open

1964
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,120
mind about everything uh you know when

1965
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,600
someone contacts you about

1966
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,520
a sighting or

1967
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:01,360
you know they want an investigation or

1968
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:03,040
something looked into

1969
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:04,960
you've got to realize that when they

1970
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:07,280
call you they trust you enough to ask

1971
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,960
you that so you become part of the

1972
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:10,560
investigation

1973
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,159
and uh you know with most people i take

1974
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,800
i i take what they say for granted until

1975
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:18,239
i figure out there's something different

1976
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:19,679
going on

1977
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,280
uh so

1978
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,520
yeah i mean i think that's the way to go

1979
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,679
though you do have to keep an open mind

1980
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,960
yeah because it's frightening for them

1981
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:28,960
to reach out as well you know they're

1982
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,199
making themselves very vulnerable and so

1983
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,360
it's our responsibility to listen to

1984
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,280
them and hear them out and listen to it

1985
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:36,880
from with an open mind

1986
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:38,560
right how about how about it thomas what

1987
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:40,640
do you think absolutely i agree with

1988
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:43,120
that and i helped arrange and sat in on

1989
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:45,440
three regressions myself with

1990
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:48,800
a very great psychologist margin kastner

1991
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,280
and uh you know when you deal on that

1992
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,679
level with people and see that done

1993
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:56,480
and i as far as eyewitness testimony i

1994
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:59,120
was luckily think

1995
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,199
thankfully bruce whitman put me with jim

1996
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:03,760
cross uh that trained me he was an air

1997
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:05,199
force retired

1998
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:06,880
colonel and uh

1999
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,960
i witnessed testimony

2000
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:10,880
absolutely when you're dealing with

2001
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:11,840
people

2002
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:13,120
you learn

2003
01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:15,280
you know i would say that probably less

2004
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,080
than

2005
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,719
three percent of eyewitness testimony is

2006
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,960
fraudulent or made up

2007
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:22,719
and um

2008
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:25,520
you have to people are experiencing what

2009
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:26,560
they

2010
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,199
and now however strange that gets

2011
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:33,760
you just have to open your mind and

2012
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,920
you're there to take down the report

2013
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:36,880
that

2014
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:39,760
you're not there to ridicule and uh

2015
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,199
you know as even jacques villa said

2016
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:45,360
and alan heineck said ridicule is not

2017
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,640
part of the scientific process right so

2018
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:50,239
you have to take people what they're

2019
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,360
saying and

2020
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,440
and you learn pretty fast to weed out

2021
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,000
the people and it's very rare people you

2022
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:57,840
know most of the time they don't want to

2023
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,800
share this with people and uh contrary

2024
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:02,480
to popular belief

2025
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,520
well

2026
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,199
you know

2027
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:07,600
as someone who takes these these uh

2028
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,679
these reports and accounts

2029
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:11,360
you it's pretty easy to start figuring

2030
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:14,080
out who's yes you know you can pretty

2031
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:15,840
well separate the wheat from the chaff

2032
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,400
when you're doing stuff like this yes uh

2033
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:20,960
but you know as far as alien encounters

2034
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:23,440
alien abductions and such

2035
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:27,199
uh i have learned that

2036
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:30,560
the experiencers as opposed to

2037
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,159
most other people who think i have an

2038
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,840
opinion on this are the ones that are

2039
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,520
going to tell you the facts

2040
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,440
uh the government isn't going to come

2041
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,440
out with any type of disclosure anytime

2042
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:41,679
soon i don't unless they absolutely have

2043
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,760
to you know if something lands on the

2044
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:45,600
white house lawn and start

2045
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,480
raiding the west wing then yeah uh then

2046
01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:49,920
we're gonna need to know

2047
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,719
but

2048
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,560
uh i think the people who are actually

2049
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,920
doing the experience having the

2050
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,360
experiences

2051
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:57,360
who who come forth

2052
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:00,880
uh very sincerely don't embellish

2053
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:03,199
uh who continue to

2054
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:04,960
talk to you

2055
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,280
yeah those are the folks that are

2056
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:09,520
they're really going to

2057
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,199
that's the disclosure and that's what

2058
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,679
we're going to get right that's correct

2059
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,880
yeah

2060
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,400
and how about that what do you got to

2061
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:18,480
say i have an open mind always keep an

2062
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,239
open mind

2063
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:22,880
uh you know i have dealt with some

2064
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,120
some crazies definitely

2065
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:27,040
i made a mistake of giving my phone

2066
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:35,830
oh my god

2067
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:37,430
this person will call me at three

2068
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,880
o'clock in the morning

2069
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,920
yeah what

2070
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:41,440
it was crazy it was

2071
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,679
according to her she's she was an xca

2072
01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:46,480
operative that used to work at uh

2073
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:49,040
dulce and she was uh

2074
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,719
i don't know after a while i had to

2075
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,960
change phone numbers

2076
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,320
but you know

2077
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:56,640
i i keep an open mind because some of

2078
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:58,480
these stories are so

2079
01:16:02,950 --> 01:16:00,960
out there so weird that i you think why

2080
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:02,960
would they want to make this this up

2081
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,360
absolutely why are they i mean why i

2082
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,760
mean there's no point

2083
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:09,600
and and you guys got there's got to be

2084
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,440
something to it because

2085
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,280
you know yeah

2086
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,239
nancy malcolm just wrote me and said uh

2087
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:18,320
lon when can we have a reptilian to

2088
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,000
interview boy if anybody ever has one

2089
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:24,480
you've got my number you've got my email

2090
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:26,320
just send them to me

2091
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,120
and i will allow them to come on here

2092
01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:31,360
and say what they got to say

2093
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:32,840
no problem there

2094
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:35,760
yes i love it i'm team reptilian i'm

2095
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,840
always fighting for reptilian rights

2096
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:41,600
you can't demonize an entire confuse

2097
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,000
everybody you can't

2098
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:47,040
oh my yeah so

2099
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:50,400
oh god i i you know it's interesting

2100
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:52,080
what you know when you get when you get

2101
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:53,760
into a group like this into a round

2102
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:55,440
table it's interesting what stuff comes

2103
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:56,159
up

2104
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:57,760
but uh you know

2105
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:59,199
i've got three different individuals

2106
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,120
here who all have different experiences

2107
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,440
and different and have been involved

2108
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:06,080
with different things and um

2109
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,960
i hope everybody learned a little bit

2110
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,840
uh

2111
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,760
from it but you know this is a subject

2112
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,600
of going for hours and hours and hours

2113
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,520
and uh if they could answer every

2114
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,760
question that they have we could

2115
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:19,760
so but at this point i'd like to have

2116
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,640
each and one of you tell us um

2117
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,440
what you are involved in now what you

2118
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:27,360
plan to be involved in if you have any

2119
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:31,040
books to uh advertise those your website

2120
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:33,199
and uh let us know what's going on so

2121
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:35,760
i'll start with lynn

2122
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:37,679
right now i i have my own channel

2123
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:39,199
rebellious you follow you thank you so

2124
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:41,920
much uh so you can find me on youtube

2125
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:46,159
and it's also on amazon music and um i

2126
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:48,960
think itunes and spotify

2127
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,000
um and i'm going to be

2128
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,239
speaking at a women in ufology

2129
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:56,000
conference coming up it's a virtual

2130
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:57,280
conference that's going to be coming up

2131
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,880
i think they're going to be advertising

2132
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:00,960
it pretty soon um but it's going to be

2133
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:03,840
on april 23rd so that's that's pretty

2134
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:05,120
much what i'm doing i just started the

2135
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,199
channel it's only about a month old uh

2136
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:08,960
so it's a brand new baby channel but

2137
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:11,280
we're having a lot of fun with it

2138
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:14,159
great how about it thomas

2139
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:16,960
yeah i uh just like to mention that

2140
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,320
throw out there that

2141
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,120
i'm looking forward to uh probably this

2142
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:23,040
august we're gonna premiere we just got

2143
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:24,400
done filming

2144
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,640
a show a gentleman that's on now on a

2145
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,800
show that's on television now

2146
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:31,120
just got done filming one episode and

2147
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:33,280
that should air around august

2148
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:36,480
and we're working on with another group

2149
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:38,719
uh one of ted phillips project was

2150
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,440
project moonshaft which

2151
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:43,520
you may have heard of that maybe not but

2152
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,920
uh there's a man right there with

2153
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:48,560
chocolate and uh moonshaft is an

2154
01:18:52,630 --> 01:18:51,120
artifact in slovakia that ted made it

2155
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:52,640
over there twice

2156
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,600
it's a long pedigree to this whole story

2157
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,600
but involves an object that was found in

2158
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:58,640
a cave

2159
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:01,040
by someone escaping the nazis in world

2160
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,159
war ii

2161
01:19:06,350 --> 01:19:04,000
and ted actually made it back to this

2162
01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:06,360
cave where this artifact was found its

2163
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,400
instrumentality that's eons old

2164
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:11,360
self-maintaining running

2165
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:12,320
uh

2166
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:14,400
not of this earth in a mountain buried

2167
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:17,679
in slovakia so we're working on getting

2168
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:20,159
there now and uh

2169
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,000
i can't tell you the longest the

2170
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,080
problems between clovis over the last

2171
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:26,800
two years and now we got a war going on

2172
01:19:30,110 --> 01:19:29,120
in close proximity

2173
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,120
so the

2174
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:32,640
geopolitical aspects of this is

2175
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,120
unbelievable right now but we're trying

2176
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,360
to get going to try to get over there in

2177
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:38,880
the next year

2178
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,840
or two to start this documentary on this

2179
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:43,679
on the moonshot project

2180
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:44,480
so

2181
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:46,239
look for that and stay tuned that's what

2182
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,640
we're working on

2183
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:50,400
how about you albert

2184
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:53,199
well i'm still working on my database

2185
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,679
daily i update it and i uh

2186
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:57,360
i share most of my a lot of my

2187
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:58,960
information on my

2188
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:00,640
facebook page

2189
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,199
humanoid encounters another another

2190
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,360
strange things i think that's what i

2191
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:07,360
think but i share a lot of my

2192
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,400
information there and i am working on my

2193
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:12,719
last book

2194
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:17,600
uh encountered from 2016 through 2021

2195
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:19,440
i'm collecting cases from that time

2196
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:20,800
period now

2197
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,920
uh

2198
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,320
i want to update the other books too but

2199
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,880
i changed publisher so it's a there's a

2200
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,520
there's a lot of you know big deal

2201
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,199
but um

2202
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:33,040
i'm still working on that i i feel like

2203
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:34,880
i have to do it i feel like i'm

2204
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:37,040
compelled to do it i i i need to

2205
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:39,040
document all these cases a lot of these

2206
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:42,159
cases that i document as long knows that

2207
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:43,920
are the cases that i

2208
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,679
obtain from like

2209
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,000
ukraine russia

2210
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:50,880
eastern europe yeah south america

2211
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:52,480
different parts of the world with people

2212
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,080
have never heard of

2213
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:56,480
and a lot of them are coming different

2214
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:59,440
languages that have to translate them

2215
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:00,719
russian

2216
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:02,480
thank god for google translate i could

2217
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,360
translate spanish and portuguese

2218
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:07,520
maybe italian a little french but some

2219
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:09,840
of these sandwiches are like really hard

2220
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:12,080
to uh yeah yeah but that's what i'm

2221
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,880
doing

2222
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:15,600
i hope to set up a website soon so i

2223
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,560
could

2224
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,120
have my database accessible there

2225
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:21,520
to the general public i want to do that

2226
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,120
i used to

2227
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:25,040
that's one of my books there

2228
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,199
i used to have that available till the

2229
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:29,760
on the ufo info website

2230
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,000
unfortunately the owner

2231
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,800
had some family issues and he closed it

2232
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,239
down

2233
01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,480
and that's it

2234
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:41,199
that's what i'm doing well if you ever

2235
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,719
need help let me know maybe i can give

2236
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,679
you a hand

2237
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:45,199
okay thank you

2238
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:47,440
uh look i i want to thank all you three

2239
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,159
for coming on today uh this evening

2240
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,159
uh you've got an open invitation to come

2241
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,719
on anytime you want and uh you know

2242
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:57,600
maybe we can do this all together again

2243
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,520
it's a fascinating subject it's an

2244
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,440
evolving subject

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01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:03,280
uh

2246
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:10,880
you take care thanks so much for having

2247
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:11,920
us on

2248
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:14,000
thank you thank you

2249
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:16,560
nice meeting you lynn and tom you too

2250
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,920
nice to meet you

2251
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:19,120
thank you sir

2252
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:20,560
been great

2253
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:24,880
here's here's my my uh my alien ice

2254
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,750
i have a whole bunch of them

2255
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:34,870
oh well

2256
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:37,040
okay thank you all right launch keep in

2257
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:42,790
now if you have an unexplained encounter

2258
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,520
or sighting feel free to contact excuse

2259
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:48,159
me contact me directly on at the lawn

2260
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,080
strip or fans of monsters dot com or

2261
01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:51,520
through the phantoms of monsters blog

2262
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:52,639
site

2263
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,520
also if you would like your encounter or

2264
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:57,600
citing red on the show

2265
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:00,400
please forward to my email

2266
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:03,040
uh you know this coming wednesday we're

2267
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,600
premiering personal reports live on

2268
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,760
phantoms and monsters radio

2269
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:09,760
you know i will be narrating several

2270
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:12,159
accounts that have come my way and give

2271
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,520
the chat room

2272
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:15,760
the opportunity to ask questions in

2273
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:18,639
reference to the reports so you know

2274
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,239
don't miss that that'll be quite

2275
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:22,880
interesting uh we're gonna probably do a

2276
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,360
bi-weekly for now

2277
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:28,080
and maybe it'll be a weekly uh a weekly

2278
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,840
endeavor but we'll see we'll see how it

2279
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:31,120
goes

2280
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:33,520
and uh look i want to thank my guests

2281
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,840
for coming on this evening it was great

2282
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:37,600
i i really like these round table

2283
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,760
discussions i don't know why i didn't

2284
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,159
start doing this a long time ago but uh

2285
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,760
i do enjoy them

2286
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,360
and and thanks to each and all of you

2287
01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:47,600
for watching and chatting if you made a

2288
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:49,280
super chat donation it's truly

2289
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,480
appreciated

2290
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:52,800
your support is what makes this possible

2291
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:55,360
so please click subscribe button

2292
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:57,760
and also consider becoming a member of

2293
01:24:01,430 --> 01:24:00,239
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2294
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,440
this

2295
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:02,960
next week

2296
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:06,239
psychic medium and spirit rescuer amy

2297
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:08,719
major will join me i've had amy on

2298
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,679
before

2299
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:12,000
and uh her book she has two books that

2300
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:14,639
she has previously written i suggest

2301
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:17,360
that you guys recommend both of them

2302
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:19,920
uh if you just go to amazon and put amy

2303
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:22,880
major in and search it her books give

2304
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,719
great details of spirit rescue work so

2305
01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,560
uh but we'll be discussing the ins and

2306
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:31,040
out of mediaship and how you can become

2307
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:32,800
a spirit rescuer

2308
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:34,800
should be an interesting discussion so

2309
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,440
be sure to tune in so until next week

2310
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,920
or until wednesday night stay healthy

2311
01:24:45,850 --> 01:24:41,760
and have a safe enjoyable weekend good

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01:25:07,590 --> 01:24:51,050
[Music]

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01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:18,709
so

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01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:25,510
do